When I built this site, I took the view that I'd just do it standards-compliant and I wouldn't mess about making it work in all the old browsers because the target audience, my friends, would all have browsers that could cope with that approach. It turns out this was a pious hope - someone complained that the navigation bar was obscuring the text; the reason - he's using Explorer 4 at the office. So a rethink may be necessary. Argh. I'll get back to you on this when I've decided how to deal with it - i.e do I rewrite the whole thing using tables or adopt a more aggressive approach and just tell people to sort their damn browser out, and until they do they can basically suck it up how ever it comes out.